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by HardlyCurious 1036 days ago
Did you hear about Parler? AWS cancelled their service for violating their terms of service. This was allegedly because Jan 6th was planned on the platform, but it turns out Jan 6th was mostly planned on Facebook.

Also apple pulled their app from the marketplace when they were trending.

'build your own platform' is a lie. You cant do that without relying on other services today.

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>'build your own platform' is a lie. You cant do that without relying on other services today.

You can do it today very effectively. Many platforms exist today that don't rely on any of the major conglomerates. It's really not difficult, you just don't get the niceties that the big players have the experience in providing.

It's really hard to exist without a payment processor, and it's overwhelmingly hard to set up one.
>This was allegedly because Jan 6th was planned on the platform, but it turns out Jan 6th was mostly planned on Facebook.

"mostly planned on Facebook" doesn't mean "not at all planned anywhere else." There was a whole data dump of content from Parler showing that yes a lot of planning was done there. Here[0] is a Slate article about it.

>'build your own platform' is a lie. You cant do that without relying on other services today.

Weird, because Parler was recently acquired and will presumably be relaunched, Gab still exists, and Rumble and Truth Social and plenty of other "alternative" platforms are still active as far as I know. How is it that an entire ecosystem of platforms to serve the conservative and right-wing market has popped up if it's impossible to build alternatives to mainstream services?

I mean, for all of the censorship supposedly going on, the "dissenters" don't seem to be hindered in getting their message out at all.

[0]https://slate.com/technology/2022/01/parler-jan-6-capitol-fa...

If I'm not wrong, Gab was cut off by pretty much all payment processors and had to launch its own to survive. There was a moment in which, if you wanted to give money to Gab, you had to either mail them a check or do a bitcoin payment to their wallet. They technically survived, but dissenters were - and are - greatly hindered at every step.
Correct, it's called Gab Pay.
Almost all of the people who were involved in Jan 6 have gone to jail. It was a serious crime.

And you can't expect companies to be wilfully complicit in criminal acts by allowing services like Parlor which you admit partly facilitated the Jan 6 event.

That said you can run internet services without AWS or Apple. Build a web app and host it on your own infrastructure.

In this context, if genuine, this seems odd to me. https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1689484345281478656

Not to be outdone, if you've not seen it in the UK we've had this much smaller rebellion: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/extinction-rebellion-pr...