[bliteben]

I would have disagreed on heat, but would love to hear what laptops that isn't an issue on.

[thfuran]

What do you mean?

[bliteben]

Many laptops have bad thermals in general under load and often even worse with case closed.

[abwizz]

true but mostly irrelevant as there rarely is any load to speak of.

if you need a heavy duty machine, use it, but most of the time you don't, that's the point.

(for comparison; skylake laptop uses about 20W under max load, my 12-gen desktop uses 40W while idle)