[emadm]

Its the standard nomenclature to use when you have graduated from Oxford with 7 years post matriculation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Arts_(Oxford,_Cambri...

I don't get the issue when this is a standard thing, was actually at Oxford same time as Mustafa Suleyman who dropped out and is doing just fine, as is Sam at OpenAI who also dropped out of Stanford.

So its not a qualification thing, nor is it a deliberate thing to mislead when that's how you're meant to identify your degree (still weird maths and computer science is an arts degree tbh there).

[ilaksh]

"7 years post matriculation" -- meaning _only_ that seven years passed since you graduated.

The issue is that describing it as an MA implies that it is equivalent to a normal Master of Arts, when in fact you did not do any further work beyond the BA. Other Oxford graduates may "standardly" benefit from this "confusion", but it's not fair to all of the millions who have worked hard for years to achieve a real graduate degree.

Whether some other famous people dropped out of an undergraduate or graduate degree program or not does not mean that it is okay to pretend that you have completed a master's degree program of work. I do believe qualifications like that are given more weight than warranted, but that doesn't mean that it's okay to be deliberately misleading. Even having lots of other people from the same university doing it doesn't make it okay.

I didn't complete any degree at all. I don't go around telling people (in so many words) that I attended UCSD. Even though I did. Because just saying that without clarification would imply that I graduated.

[haldujai]

Interesting, I didn't know that either. If I was hiring I would have assumed the candidate completed additional studies especially if the date of graduation was what appears to be 3 years after graduation (btw matriculation is start date not graduation).

@emadm the wikipedia article you link to explains why it's misleading.

[emadm]

Not really I always used MA (Oxon) as appropriate in my resumes and similar. You don't call it a BA.

I think the thing here is also intention given this is a weird thing, it would make 0 difference in anything I do for me to have tried to mislead folk that I did a masters degree.

I worked as an enterprise dev in my gap year for Metaswitch doing low level programming <= this for example is far more relevant experience.

For the role of an AI CEO typical qualification is actually dropping out tbh

[haldujai]

Apologies, I didn't notice the commenter I replied to used "deliberate". I don't think you're being deliberately misleading or have ill intentions given that this is in fact how it works at Oxford/Cambridge.

My comment was meant to convey that I think this convention is misleading in general. If I was reviewing a stack of resumes from not otherwise noteworthy or qualified individuals I would have assumed the MA candidate had graduate level education as I'm unfamiliar with this convention, the Wikipedia article has some survey data regarding this.

I also agree it's irrelevant in your specific case, I honestly didn't even know if you had graduated or from where before this post and this detail doesn't change my opinion of your qualifications.