[Xeoncross]

On a related note, I consider paying for toll roads to be a form of health insurance. I know the newest teen drivers out cruising with their friends aren't paying $6 to race each other down the toll road and likely crash with me.

I've seen some crazy stuff on the freeways and much safer driving on toll roads.

[dublinben]

Now imagine how much even more safe you’d all be if you were riding on a train, and those youths were harmlessly racing each other on bikes on a nearby separated bike path.

[edgyquant]

Now imagine how much safer you’d all be if you stayed home and never went anywhere. This is a ridiculously regressive argument.

[Xeoncross]

I'm all for both of these actually.

However, until utopia happens and we don't have to use cars or commute I'm thankful for the little improvements.