[hnfong]

You're talking about two totally different things.

GP is saying Vim users generally have muscle memory of their shortcuts (I might add, to the extent that some of them may not even be conscious which keys they are pressing). GP also mentioned that Vim takes less mental effort (due to muscle memory) and is faster.

The faster part is easy to argue even from a theory perspective. Your hands basically never leave the home position. The time saved from physically moving your hands to and from various keyboard/mouse positions are reduced. At least Vim can be faster in that sense.

You're saying you have a personal anecdote about a coworker (who from your description isn't necessarily using Vim). How is that relevant?

[tuwtuwtuwtuw]

> How is that relevant?

I keep reading and hearing folk claiming that X is faster, as in this thread. It would be nice to read some actual study showing this to be true, but it seems like it mostly ends up being strongly held opinions based on anecdotes.

You say it's easy to argue. Sure, it's easy to argue but that doesn't make it correct. I could argue in the other direction and then we end up wasting our time.

[hnfong]

It's true for me, and that's good enough for me.

Perhaps an objective, statistical significant study helps you decide, but ultimately, some people are more productive in Vim, and some people aren't. A study just gives you the average, but it doesn't necessarily imply anything for your personal experience with the tool.

Arguing what is "correct" here is a waste of time TBH. Nobody is really trying to prove anything. The person you originally replied to was trying to answer "Why so many people love vim?" . It's not because it is "objectively faster for everyone who uses it, provable in a reproducible large scale study", but rather because people perceive it making them work faster.

You don't have to accept the answer. Just leave it be.

[jodrellblank]

> "It would be nice to read some actual study showing this to be true"

https://danluu.com/keyboard-v-mouse/ - concludes that it varies by situation; keyboard wins at tasks where you might expect keyboard to win, mouse wins at tasks where you might expect mouse to win, tools like regex search/replace wins at tasks where you might expect it to win.