[x86x87]

Lol. Based on chats with a buddy that [still] work there, in [most] a lot of buildings they have a system sort of like the subway. Swipe, door open, you pass through, door close. There isba sensor that can tell if you went in. You also swipe in and out of the building. So not only they know you were there, they know for how long.

From a business security point of view this makes sense. You want to know who is in the building at all times.

Also, from conversation with same person: everyone got the email. Not a single soul they talked to met the "quota". Isn't it great? Now they're gonna move to the fire everyone stage?

[amzn1691681962]

> everyone got the email. Not a single soul they talked to met the "quota"

As an Amazon employee who has been RTO'ing 3 days a week like a good corporate drone, I can absolutely attest that this is not true. It does seem like the query used didn't take things like time-off or holidays though either.

My anecdote - there are MANY director level managers who are against RTO and thought they could just turn a blind eye and message to their org "I am not keeping track of this so don't worry."

I pointed out to MY director that I didn't think it was going to be in their power to turn a blind eye. They would get some sort of report with tough questions attached, directly from their manager or higher. Turns out I am still Right A Lot.

I'm guessing your friend has a director with a similar mindset who is finding out the harsh reality of the situation themself now. They have no control over this. Every manager (L6 - L8) I've talked with about this was both unaware this was happening and pissed off because they were removed from the communication chain with their team.

[schott12521]

That’s a very good take, I completely agree (but do feel bad that you’ve been going in!).

My last day is today, my org tried very hard to keep me. They were going to get me a remote exception until the email came out, now they have no idea what will happen.

Just like you explained, everyone told me that the director would shield us. That one email changed everything.

[x86x87]

You got my attention until the "right a lot bit". What happened to earn trust or being data driven?

Imho, they are gonna reap the results of what they sow foe years to come.

[yellow_lead]

The "right a lot" is a cheeky point to Amazon's core values. Probably written by bezos or some other exec who saw themselves as infallible.

> Leaders are right a lot. They have strong judgment and good instincts. They seek diverse perspectives and work to disconfirm their beliefs.

[x86x87]

got it. that's when i replied w/ the "earns trust" bit.

[yellow_lead]

Wow, that's inconvenient. Seems like a courthouse/prison

[tivert]

> Lol. Based on chats with a buddy that [still] work there, in [most] a lot of buildings they have a system sort of like the subway. Swipe, door open, you pass through, door close. There isba sensor that can tell if you went in. You also swipe in and out of the building. So not only they know you were there, they know for how long.

Could you swing a backpack through to fool the sensor? But it's sounding like fooling it would be way to attention-grabbing to work.