[qbasic_forever]

He DOES have a boss that mandates when he needs to work--the apps penalize him if he isn't taking rides and eventually cut off his work entirely if he isn't taking them (which is the whole point of the original article and legislation in Seattle!).

[ffhhttt]

That’s exactly how an app which treated him as a part-time worker would work. If you stopp accepting every ride that’s offered to you, you get fired. What else would you expect?

I find it so puzzling that some people can’t accept that there are gig workers who prefer the flexibility and many of them wouldn’t be able to work at all if they had to be treated as part/full time.

[jvmfjvfjvf]

Absolutely wrong. There are no penalties for not working. I've done that myself. Further to equate a "boss" to an app is quite a leap.

[qbasic_forever]

The commenter explicitly says to the contrary:

> Skip, on the other hand, penalizes his earnings if he falls below 80% moving average accept rate (over the last 10 orders).

[lalopalota]

The commenter also says nothing about being penalized for not taking shifts. If they sign up for a shift, they are expected to work that shift. It is a completely different model than Uber Eats, which he can sign into or out of at any given time, without penalty.

[ffhhttt]

If so if uber was forced to employ all of their workers how else would to expect it to work than that?

Certainly your ability to reject jobs or even to select the time you want to work would be severely limited (but let’s ignore that..)

[chmod775]

They're not his employer so they shouldn't penalize him. If you're truly a gig worker, why are you being penalized for not accepting some job? How does that make sense?

If they were employing him, penalizing him for declining work would be fine.

[ffhhttt]

Is Uber penalizing him? No.

Any company which would have to directly employ him would certainly penalize him for not accepting work and would not allow him to start his shift whenever he wanted.

That other app he’s using seems to be somewhere in between gig and normal work (so you seem to get the worst from both worlds).

> If they were employing him, penalizing him for declining work would be fine.

Which seems like a huge downside?

[oblio]

Ummm.... it could be a job with a flexible schedule. I don't understand why that's so hard to set up.

[Transpire7487]

Because Skip has shifts and he is expected to deliver to a certain standard during that shift. The “should be an employee” people seem to want their cake (be classified as an employee) and eat it too (not get punished for not doing acceptable workloads as an employee). Smh

[jvmfjvfjvf]

You're talking about a different app not Uber, which doesn't penalize per acceptance rates. Besides, I don't think you understand how these gig apps work. You can only accept or reject if you're clocked into a shift. His dad can clock in at anytime but he won't be penalized on Skip if he's not clocked in.