[whateverman23]

> "Private offices with doors that close were absolutely required and not open to negotiation."

Where does this come from? It's something that sounds right, but then I look back at my parent's office jobs and pop culture from 20+ years ago and it doesn't line up. Open office spaces have been extremely common for a very very long time, with private offices reserved for higher level people.

[xtracto]

Back in 2008 i worked at a Leibnitz institute in germany. First as a Wissenschafter and then as a Koordinator.

In the first case I shard a closed door office with one other person. Each of us had a large desk, bookcase and great space.

In the second case I had my own office with my own desk and even a table with two chairs for receiving people.

I was pretty low in the institute food chain. Only the PhD students were lower, and they shared 2 or at most 3 person closed door offices .

Its perfectly doable.

[kiney]

Thats because those buildings have a different public budget than personnel in germany