[haldujai]

Unless I'm missing something this is completely unrelated to and does not substantiate your argument that drug approvals are harming patients with the "mostly harming" argument implying more harm is being caused than prevented by current approval processes.

Once again, source?

> This is obviously true.

As you only mentioned the FDA, and keep only mentioning the FDA, it is not obviously true that you are arguing against all Western drug approval agencies and not specifically the FDA.

> Are Americans, Canadians and Europeans all different species?

All being the same species does not mean all have the same regulatory framework and in fact they don't. I am sorry but I really don't understand any of the points you're trying to make.

[astrange]

> Unless I'm missing something this is completely unrelated to and does not substantiate your argument that drug approvals are harming patients with the "mostly harming" argument implying more harm is being caused than prevented by current approval processes.

Not having sunscreen harms people by giving them skin cancer.

> As you only mentioned the FDA, and keep only mentioning the FDA, it is not obviously true that you are arguing against all Western drug approval agencies and not specifically the FDA.

I didn't say anything about them in my original post so I'm certainly open to believing they're also too slow.

Europeans certainly seem to believe a lot of strange things about American food that are just protectionism from their farmers.

> All being the same species does not mean all have the same regulatory framework and in fact they don't. I am sorry but I really don't understand any of the points you're trying to make.

Yeah but that's bad. It's also eg bad that every American city has completely different housing regulations.

[haldujai]

I'm not sure how to communicate this more clearly. I'll try one last time.

My only question to you is this, you said:

"The FDA mostly harms the population by not approving drugs fast enough."

Do you have a source that says on the whole the FDA harms more people by not approving drugs more quickly, MORE than any safety added by this process.

Please note this would mean a citation that has looked at MANY approvals and timelines while ALSO looking at rejections for potential harm and concluding that the process is more harmful than beneficial.

To explain to you why yours is insufficient, even if we accept that this ONE example has caused harms you have not addressed any potential safety issues that have been prevented in OTHER therapeutics by the long process, this may in fact be zero or less than the harms caused by delays but requires evaluation in order to draw the conclusion you are making.