[cyberax]

> I thought GRRM was trying to set up a fictional European Middle Ages, at least in Westeros?

Sure. I'm just noting that having cultures that don't care too much about religion is not unprecedented in the actual history.

[the_af]

But what does this have to do with whether the fictional world of "A Song of Ice and Fire" is more or less realistic in their depiction of "medieval society" [1] than the epic romances that came before, and that he compares to "Disneyland Middle Ages"? [1, again].

We are discussing GRRM's fictional depiction of a "realistic" middle ages, with a focus on Europe but some side-dishes of Asian steppe cultures -- which according to ACOUP he also gets wrong. Which wouldn't matter if GRRM didn't assert his depiction was more realistic!

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[1] George Martin's words.