[EdwardDiego]

Kafka isn't even a queue. I've done consulting on Kafka, and several times my recommendation is "You don't want or need Kafka".

A classic sign of "you wanted an MQ" is when a consumer writes a message to a topic to let the producer know it read the message the producer wrote...

[zbentley]

> A classic sign of "you wanted an MQ" is when a consumer writes a message to a topic to let the producer know it read the message the producer wrote...

Oof. Queued RPC is such a siren song; so many developers either stumble into this pattern or seek it out. And it's such a pain. Suddenly the latency of (often user-sensitive) operations is contingent on the latency of a queue consumer plus the time it takes to process everything in the queue before the RPC was issued. Goodbye, predictable turnaround times.

[red-iron-pine]

"but MQ is, like, so 1998, we want new and cool and GCP told us we needed Kafka"

[cbsmith]

Right. Kafka is a database. ;-)

[EdwardDiego]

Anything is a database if you're brave enough :D

[cbsmith]

The bravery is in using what has traditionally been called a database. ;-)

https://youtu.be/05mVvkp6f2M