[cptskippy]

I wasn't attempting to say an ICE more efficient or as efficient as an EV, we all know they are no where near approaching similar efficiency. I was just pointing out that for an ICE idling is their most efficient state next to being shut off and is significantly more efficient that when moving.

We tend to think of ICE efficiency in terms of MPG and naturally assume that their idling efficiency to be similar to their maximum driving efficiency and that's incorrect.