[iraqmtpizza]

As soon as the money becomes conditional, it's not UBI. If you have to irrevokably sign up to an organ donor list, it's not UBI. UBI is inherently redistributive. Which I happen to think is immoral.

[nerdbert]

Almost every interaction between more than one human that involves resources is either abusive or positively redistributive to some degree. If intentional redistribution with the goal of increasing equality is immoral, that leaves abuse as the only moral choice in your worldview.

[iraqmtpizza]

LOL so theft and coercion are in the redistributive category and barter and contracts are in the abuse category? If what you say is true, then I would choose abuse over theft.

[lost_tourist]

Do you think that public roads and schools are also immoral?

[iraqmtpizza]

In principle, yes. In practice, one occasionally has to choose the least immoral option. That does not invalidate the principle.

[landemva]

Do you think USA doing more deficit spending to redistribute USA's munitions to Ukraine is immoral?

Seems like the past 30 years have been ongoing interventionism to shovel money to war makers.

[iraqmtpizza]

Yes. We're borrowing money from China to fund salaries in the Ukrainian government. Let Europe do that. I don't mind sending old munitions that are set to be destroyed anyway, especially if we get some good data out of it.