[Turskarama]

It's better in that it's free, but it's been defunded so much that it's beginning to fall apart.

Private healthcare is basically broken out the gate, public healthcare can be much better but it still does need to be funded.

[mensetmanusman]

I would say it’s been defunded relative to the expected pensioner to worker ratio.

Much of Europe went wild assuming that we would always have 5 to 7 workers per person retired to care for, and I won’t be surprised if we get down to 1 to 2 in the next 50 years.

That’s a type of system collapse people aren’t prepared for.