[va_coder]

I hear a lot of talk about how things have changed. Have you guys read Liars Poker? This stuff has been going on since the dawn of time.

[jpdoctor]

> Have you guys read Liars Poker

Funny side note: Michael Lewis said that he wrote that as more of a warning. He was astounded (and a little horrified) to find out it was being used as a how-to.