[23B1]

I loved the Bay Area when we lived there for the outdoors, the food, and the varied terrain, like this article outlines.

But I hated the Bay Area for the people. Not that anyone was particularly nasty or mean, they were just flaky. The number of cancelled plans, far, far outnumbered the kept ones.

I'm open to the idea it was just me, but I know we weren't the only people experiencing this – and I have a much easier time of it in other cities where I've lived – Amsterdam, London, and NYC.

[drcode]

Having lived there for a year, I agree about the flakiness

However, along with that comes an openness to experiences from people: If you do anything creative, you will be surprised how much the median person in the Bay will be sincerely into it

Less of the "why would anyone do something like that" attitude I found in the Midwest or East Coast when I show people the stuff I do.

[quartz]

It wasn't just you. At least around 2013 it was a whole thing dubbed "the San Francisco yes": https://thebolditalic.com/what-s-up-with-the-san-francisco-y...

[pesus]

I don’t think it’s just people in the Bay Area that are flaky, but rather Californians in general. I don’t really know what causes it, but I’m guilty of it myself, since I’ve lived here my entire life. Living in a place like SF where there’s a lot of options just exacerbates it.

[s09dfhks]

I wonder if our lack of good public transit has anything to do with this. If I had a super easy way to get down to San Jose from the East Bay, I would be hanging out with my friends down there much more often.

[23B1]

I think you might be right about this; it's way easier to party – and indulge – when you can take a cheap cab or the subway from LES to UWS.

[mcint]

BART has extended a little closer on both sides. Or BART + CalTrain (esp. some variant of express / limited). It's still a longer ride, a full hour or more from East Bay.

[smugma]

Agreed. It's actually much worse in LA than SF (I've lived 20+ years in each).

[ZephyrBlu]

I've seen other people say that people in NYC are notoriously flaky.

[23B1]

I have no quantitative data either way, but anecdotally people are late but will usually just tell you if they can/can't make it, as opposed to the 'yes means no' out west.