[Eji1700]

I do not mean this in a hostile way, but I fucking hate this take.

There are plenty of people who get EXTREMELY excited when shit turns out to be true. There's this sterotype of boring serious people who never have fun and don't enjoy what everyone else is enjoying and it's just wrong.

There are people in the industry who are going to go fucking nuts if this is true, but they're not dancing in the streets because this is the equivalent of "is katy perry pregnant? Our pictures maybe sorta show a bump!".

To be clear, if that kind of gossip is your life, that's fine, but even then you're probably about to read a shitload of ill informed speculation based on suspicious evidence, with undeniable proof 3-6 months away. You've seen this thing literally hundreds of times before, and see nothing to be excited about because it's just noise. If there's a baby in 6 months, great, if not, "yeah maybe" is about the extent of the information.

Science is done slow because you need to prove things. Even with this material being "easy" to replicate by the standards of the field, it still doesn't happen overnight (and to my amateur understanding in part because of a lack of detail).

So while I can't speak for the person you're replying to, I can damn sure say I find nothing about this exciting (more embarrassing that so many people have turned this into a cult following, much like the cold fusion claims on steroids), and will be one of the first people to be extremely excited when we have confirmation.

This is not "watching the process" happen. It is "speculating on the process at every single step no matter how suspicious because the process isn't fast enough for you"

[cthalupa]

There's plenty of real scientists doing real science with this. It's pretty dismissive to talk about university labs full of PhDs posting preprints and videos and all of that and liken them to TMZ style reporting.

People bring up the cold fusion stuff repeatedly, and that's also bizarre - Muon stuff aside, cold fusion wasn't thought to be possible under our understanding of physics when that craze happened. That's a lot of what was so weird about it. On the other hand, there's absolutely nothing in our understanding of physics that makes a RTAPS impossible.

I would agree with the idea that not being excited about this at this point in time doesn't make you a curmudgeon. But saying "I do not mean this in a hostile way" doesn't mean much when you proceed to be hostile and disparaging towards people. The tone of your comment doesn't change at all if you replace "I do not mean this in a hostile way, but" with "You morons"

[moolcool]

It's this kind of excitement of possibility that drives people to work on ideas like this in the first place. Thousands of people tuned into Andrew McCalip's twitch stream of an oven, just because of the possibility that something world-changing might come out. I'm sure lots of those viewers, many of them young people who are in the prime years of forming interests and career choices, have never even heard of superconductors before last week, and now are soaking up all the information they can on the topic. That's awesome.

Was the hype leading up to the moon landing also a waste of time, just because it was just "gossip" until boots hit the surface? Such a joyless take.

[ChatGTP]

Yes, or it’s another opportunity to procrastinate and waste time engaging in social media…

[nazgulsenpai]

> I do not mean this in a hostile way, but I fucking hate this take.

The "fucking hate" kinda negates the first half of the sentence.

[willis936]

I am somewhat adjacent to businesses that sell superconductors. I get tired with every premature take I see, including Nature's. However, I am quite optimistic with LK-99. It has had a different scent from the beginning than prior STP SC claims. More than optimistic, I am excited because of this scent of legitimacy. The level of conspiracy necessary at this point to make LK-99 a nothingburger is a bit big for my taste. It's too soon to say exactly what we have on our hands here, but it is exciting. Anyone denying that without a novel argument has a suspect agenda imo. It needs further replication and methods development and it's only been a week.

[tigershark]

It’s only been a week and we have had already multiple confirmations of important properties from several independent sources. Given that it’s quite unlikely that they are all producing fraudulent results I would say that something strange seems to be really happening with this novel material.

[jacquesm]

> I fucking hate this take

But it is hostile. It also shows a lack of emotional control at least on par with the people that are openly enthusiastic and possibly much worse. At least they are having fun...

[rvnx]

The word speculation really applies when you see people betting on this.