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by nottorp 1047 days ago
> The problem is that the computing industry has changed.

Nah, the problem is ipv6 has been designed by a commitee for a lot of enterprise-ish features so the hobbyists have taken a look and postponed setting it up internally for when they have absolutely no choice.

I've asked for simple ipv6 tutorials in discussions on HN and elsewhere and whatever I got pointed at was always longer than the article we're discussing and incomplete.

Basic set up of ipv4 for a home network can be explained over just one pint. Looks like you need two barrells for ipv6.
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yesco 1047 days ago
- https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/ipv6/configurati...

- https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/routing/examples...

- https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/ipv6_ipv4_transi...

- https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/ipv6/ipv6_extras

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nottorp 1047 days ago
Yeah right. The summary of the first page already throws around like 4-5 acronyms that each require reading a separate documentation.

And that's only for configuring your router, not your local network...

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yesco 1047 days ago
Okay then please provide me the level of documentation you are looking for, but for an IPv4 network. Sounds wonderful, I'd love to share it with new hires.
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JohnFen 1047 days ago
> I've asked for simple ipv6 tutorials

There really does seem to be a lack of good documentation about all of this. The docs that I've seen appear to be aimed at actual network engineers, or are so incomplete as to not be worthwhile.

I would be much less stressed by all of this if I could find something good that sits between those two extremes.

A part of me, though, suspects that the reason there is no "middle ground" documentation is that it's not possible -- that IPv6 is too complex for that. Not saying that's the actual reality, but it has the whiff of it.

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yesco 1047 days ago
All networking is complex.

I asked the other guy this, but I'll also ask you. Please provide me the level of documentation you are looking for, but for an IPv4 network. If you have some grand tutorial that explains it as easily as you make it out to be, then I truly would love to see it, I will include it in my onboarding documentation at work.

Because I understand both IPv4 and IPv6, and do not consider IPv6 the more complex protocol by any measure. I suspect your "whiff" is more a bias towards what you are comfortable with, rather than a true reflection of IPv6's complexity.

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nottorp 1046 days ago
> Because I understand both IPv4 and IPv6, and do not consider IPv6 the more complex protocol by any measure.

You mentioned "new hires" while i mentioned hobbyists. You're talking about a business network where people are paid to do it, I'm talking about home networks and home labs.

You're basically confirming my statement that IPv6 was designed for enterprise needs?

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bauruine 1046 days ago
There are millions of people using IPv6 without knowing it. The ISP has everything preconfigured and if you use a third party router it's normaly one or two options to set. And it just works like for IPv4.
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nottorp 1046 days ago
I have that. Not enough at hobbyist level though.
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bauruine 1046 days ago
>Please provide me the level of documentation you are looking for, but for an IPv4 network.

Could help to get an idea what you see as "hobbyist level". Setting up IPv6 has been pretty straight forward on plain Ubuntu as a router just with replacing the dhcpd subnet configs with a radvd config, enable ipv6 forwarding in addition to ipv4 forwarding and replace the iptables NAT rule with a only forward RELATED,ESTABLISHED connections (which already is optional).

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