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by traceroute66 1056 days ago
Would be good to know how it compares to Standard Notes[1] which is also open-source[2]

[1] https://standardnotes.com [2] https://github.com/standardnotes/app

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Even their fully self-hosted solution seems to come with most features locked behind paid subscriptions[1][2] which, whilst being perfectly fine on its own, is also a restriction that automatically disqualifies the software from being open source[3].

Edit: They're quite possibly violating their own licenses here, but I'm not a lawyer so don't take it as fact.

[1]: https://standardnotes.com/help/48/can-i-use-extensions-with-...

[2]: https://standardnotes.com/help/self-hosting/subscriptions

[3]: https://opensource.org/osd/

Also Simplenote from the Automattic folks: https://simplenote.com/developers/
This seems concerning: "The Service should not be used to store sensitive information such as bank account numbers, credit card information, or passwords."

Why would a notes app dictate what content can be stored in it?

From: https://simplenote.com/terms/

It’s not dictating.

It’s disclaiming. They are saying they do not believe their cloud-first tool is the appropriate place for that sort of content.

Simplenote is run responsibly by serious people. They are telling you what is absolutely common sense, in my mind: it’s not normal to store sensitive information on cloud notepad services you do not (and cannot!) pay for.

I suspect the reason is that their continuous-sync process (which is like SubEthaEdit etc.) does not work with notes encrypted at source.

Apple Notes makes more of this but it’s provided by a firm with several orders of magnitude more money and resources behind it.

This is from their terms of service. Storing sensitive information in Simplenote is therefore a breach of ToS.
OK, whatever.

They are trying to tell you not to do something risky (for you and for them I guess).

Complain about it on some abstract rights-based level all you like if you feel that it's a strange "concerning" issue. They are good people and they are doing this for the goodwill only (really: read the story about how Matt Mullenweg bought the simplenote.com domain for $29,000 and gifted it to them before he even discussed buying them out).

Me, I just won't use it for sensitive stuff.

or Notesnook[1], which is also open-source, and E2E. I find it better and more reliable than SN.

[1] https://notesnook.com [2] https://github.com/streetwriters/notesnook

Standard Notes has a selfhostable server and clients for mobile. Beaver Notes seems to be confined to one desktop device.