[folkrav]

I feel like there's an in-between we're not talking about, that would look a bit less like a shareware site from the early 00s, used more than 30% of my screen, and would work on my phone, but isn't the modern mess of megabytes of JS bundles for a static landing page. It could load in 35-50ms, too, I wouldn't mind.

[washadjeffmad]

"Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but nothing left to take away."

I value negative space in the same way that my dream is not to pile my plate with as much as I can at a buffet.

[thfuran]

That's nice, but I value text that renders at a legible size more than I value leaving the majority of my screen empty. This layout isn't effectively using negative space, it's just wasting the entire screen. At least on mobile.

[drivers99]

On mobile I just use two thumbs to zoom in to the column I want to read.

[folkrav]

If only we had simple CSS rules to present things in a way that doesn't require one to do this

[libraryatnight]

Blatant ableism against the mono-thumbed or thumbless.

[toomim]

The mono-thumbed can always double-tap the desired column, and thumbless folx can use their nose.

[renewiltord]

ᵀʰᵃᵗ’ˢ ʷʰʸ ᴵ ᵐᵃᵏᵉ ᶜᵒᵐᵐᵉⁿᵗˢ ˢᵐᵃˡˡᵉʳ ᵒⁿ ᵖᵘʳᵖᵒˢᵉ

[djbusby]

How did you do that?

[Sabinus]

Ḩ̸̻̹̝̯̮̖͚͔̙̙̰̞̳̩͎̻̅͛͆̌͑̈͗͐͆̀̇̈͋͜î̴̡̺̬͚̠̻̺̮̤̥̟̜͗͐͋͌̄̈͂̽̒́́̋͜͠͠s̵̻̗̰̒̈̿͌̅͗̽̈́͝ ̶̱̣̗͍̬̲̘̣͍̥̟̦̫̬́̈͗͂̾̍̉͊̌̚ͅą̸̤̤̳̺̹͆̆̍̾̌̿̅̽͌̔̿̒̎̂̉̈́͐̚͝ȑ̷͉̄̏́̔̒́̇̈́̑͆̀͌̎̌̆̕͝r̷̗̮͙̱̹̣̤͚͐͐̕į̷̨̡̡̛̛̹̱̹̹̺̬͔̬͇̎́͑̈͒̈́͌͛̐͂́̈́̚͜͝v̸̡̢̛̼̝̜̞̜͕̫̳̣̰̺̮͈̗̞̦̰̰͇͊̅̏͆̄̊͒͑̂̈́̉͛͋͛͘̕a̴̭̱̒l̵͖̗̳̪̯̣̗͋̋͋̑̎̌̌̓͆͒̑̆͐͊͝͝͝͠ ̶̹̫̪͓͈̘̳̈͜ͅw̵̬̪͖̭̲̪͝ͅạ̴̛̞͙͉̀́́̐͌̅͗͆̃̀͆̒̄̈́́̚ṡ̵̯͕́̓̈́͆̈̈͆̀͆ ̵̮̪̪̹̻̓̊̏̀̂̽̓̈́̄̏̅̊̊̎̂̚͘̚͠f̸͍͎͇̺̪̩̯̾ͅo̴̟̬͙͈̮͔̿̈́̈̑͊̀̽̎̕r̵̛͎̳̻̜̦̺̥̦̞͐͌̽́̔̈͌̂̀͛͌̓̉̔͋̆̏͊͘͝ţ̵̧̢̧̻̻̺͎͙̠͈̩̪̥͇̥̮̿̇̏̍̉̀̉͒͐̌̔̈́́̚̕͠o̶͖̤̜̟̱̖͓͍̖̲̮̮̫͎̜̫͕̖̼̕̕l̴̢̺͍̾̒̄̈͘ḏ̷̛̗͖̝͚͕͕̬̖̱̬̗̳̘̪̠̹͛̋̀̄̇̌͆̒̄̇̀̑͝ͅͅͅ.̴̨̨̢̦̜͕̞̬͍̹̟̩͖̥̗̹͉̼̹̊̎̓̒̏̋͜ ̸̡̼̝̥͔̯̠̤̰̘̙̗͓̫̦͙̎̈́̓͊̑̒̅H̷̡̻̖͍̜̞̥͓̩͈͓̿̓̋͠ͅë̸̹̠̗̼̂̀̋̃̑̓̓̇̚ ̷̧̡̛͈̮̞̙̳͂̍̔̽̑́̋̀̐̈́̾͌̅̎̂̔̿̚͝ͅc̵̥̗̲̬͓͈͕̘̱͖̜̭̖̱̳̏̎̎̀͊̎̾͊̊̑͘͜ȏ̵̲̖̼̘͔͚̰͍̜͔͚͘͝ͅͅm̶̢̝̬̹͉̞̩̗͛̓̅̎͊̌̕͘̚͠ȩ̷̯̦̫̤̲̞͒͒̒́̌̓̒̍̎͠s̴̡̧̢̱͔͈͈̩̖̥̖̻̻̣̗̭̣̞̥̝̤̮̖͛̽̈̌̎̇.̴̝̗͖̗͙̦̱̀͛̃͑̓̀̀͑͊̂̂̿̽̀̐͂́͘͘ ̶̡̢̟̼̻̣̠͓͕̦̲̗̩̹̔͆̒͝ͅ

[qmarchi]

Unicode tricks. A quick Google search for "small text generator" will point you in the right direction.

[folkrav]

You're free to call that "negative space", it's still 70% of my screen that's just blinding white, and 30% that's a tiny, non-responsive column layout. You call it perfect, I call it annoyingly empty and bad usability on mobile.

[indymike]

If you are looking for Pegasus mail on a mobile device, I think you might be a wee bit outside of the target market. And btw, Pegasus is a shareware site from the 1990s.

[folkrav]

Why do you make the assumption that people running, or interested in running Pegasus, would not read things on their phone?

[nathell]

A lot of sites from https://512kb.club/ are like that.

[thesuitonym]

Why does it need to take up more than 30% of your screen? And what's wrong with your phone? It works perfectly fine on mine.

[scblock]

Legibility and usability. Like many old sites this one uses small fonts, small elements, and has tiny targets. Especially when working on a large display. I make liberal use of Firefox's zoom feature to compensate, but better defaults don't hurt.

And yes it works on a phone as you can easily zoom in, but inclusion of responsive design, e.g. moving the sidebar to a footer, and use larger fonts would significantly improve legibility and usability. This is not incompatible with a simple and fast-loading site.

[folkrav]

I guess we have very different definitions of "works perfectly". Sure, the page displays as intended, if that's what you mean. Tiny 3 pixel high links are neither accessible nor very usable.