[bunga-bunga]

IE was different things to different people.

To developers, IE was the browser for which you had to spend hours debugging issues. Sounds like Safari to me. Considering you have to buy a whole device to use Safari, I’d argue it’s worse than IE was.

(Sent from my Safari browser)

[joshstrange]

> Considering you have to buy a whole device to use Safari, I’d argue it’s worse than IE was.

Until Edge (which is just Chrome essentially) the only way to run IE was on a windows computer. Not sure how that’s different.

[bunga-bunga]

The difference is that Microsoft did not sell computers and did not sue anyone trying to run their OS on non-Microsoft hardware.

Safari can only be run on Apple machines manufactured by Apple.

[joshstrange]

Aside from selling hackintosh computers I don’t think I’ve ever heard of Apple going after someone for running macOS on third party hardware or running it virtualized. If you try to make a business out of it they will come after you but they are going after developers.

Nowadays something like BrowserStack feels like a requirement anyways since I’ll never have all the devices I need to test.

[bunga-bunga]

You’re missing the point. Just because you can “pirate it” and not have the FBI at your doorstep it doesn’t mean Apple is faultless.

Also Browserstack is still using Apple devices and you have to pay for them.

These are all unnecessary justifications for the new IE

[kemayo]

You can run linux builds of WebKit, which should be enough to debug Safari rendering issues: https://webkit.org/downloads/

[robertoandred]

You had to buy a whole Windows computer to use IE.