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by simula67 1054 days ago
> to explain why they should stop using #Chromium / #GoogleChrome and use #Firefox or #Epiphany as their main #web #browser

Or use Brave.

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Why is brave shilled so much ? I don't think I recalled seeing as many ads from a browser other than brave. Using a browser that claims to be the new savior of the internet, "security and privacy focused", while being related to a crypto and heavily marketing their product... Meh.
It is my main browser in android. Never seen any add except some new stuff hard-coded. Yes there is something about crypto but I never used it. I am a pretty happy user. I don't understand why they market their product, I don't know any other alternative that blocks adds and is that fast on android.

Users concerned about security and privacy should use TOR. It is very useful to browse websites blocked in my country.

"there is crypto but I don't use it"

Fair enough, but some of us consider the mere presence of crypto features to be a problem. It entirely erodes my trust in the teams judgment and if Firefox ever added something like that would have to switch away as well.

Just dismissing it as a "crypto feature" is pure robotic mindlessness. We are past the point where crypto scammers ruled the day. The scammers/hype herd have moved on to AI.

Who is left behind holding the crypto bag, are different kind of people. Even central banks are using "crypto features" to implement CBDCs. The BAT tokens Brave has proposed is not a bad thing, even if it doesn't work out, to the problem of Attention Capture and Attention theft. We need such ideas and experiments. People's attention is not someone else's property. Google and Mozilla don't even talk about how much Attention theft is going on, leave alone what the solution is.

I think you are naive to think that crypto has no role to play in Brave browser. 66% of the tokens are given to the investors, and Brave is a for-profit, which obviously mean that investors will want a return in their investment someday. I'm curious to see how they'll do it, not saying it'll be toxic, but with all their crypto stuff they are starting off the wrong foot And if they can't make it profitable, well the project will be dead anyways.
> while being related to a crypto

There is your answer

I had always assumed it was due to Brendan Eich being the face of the project. Or the built-in adblocking. It's my preference for these reasons as a chromium default - I don't know anyone using Brave who touches the crypto stuff.
>Why is brave shilled so much?

It is the only good Chromium based browser. It is also open source unlike Vivaldi and Opera/Edge etc.

All the crypto shit can be turned off, annoying yes, but perfectly doable in the standard options menu.

Are you even aware that Brave uses Chromium basically? it uses Blink engine.
Near enough everyone here knows that. Are you even aware that Chromium is open source and Brendan Eich has said Brave won't be supporting WEI?

https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1684561924191842304

Baby, bathwater, etc.

That's a link, all right, but it doesn't refute your correspondent here.

Chromium forked Blink from WebKit, which was forked by Apple from KHTML. We have a fork (or spork: https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1687485972164837377). We could cope if Google were to repudiate Chromium (and violate the FOSS licenses on the sources).

> The Brave Browser is built on the open-source Chromium Web core and our own client code is released under the Mozilla Public License 2.0 .

If you are on mac, you can use Orion, it’s written by the kagi team.

> Brave is a free and open-source web browser developed by Brave Software, Inc. based on the Chromium web browser.