[verisimilidude]

When you see this, it’s a sign that someone built their web components with React/Angular/Vue on the brain.

The tech is fine. You can achieve amazing progressive enhancement with web components by understanding and effectively using <template> and <slot>. However, many web component developers never learn this.

The problem you’re describing is a training/marketing issue, as discussed in the post.

[arcbyte]

The browsers really need to make it possible to use templates and slots without javascript at all. There's no reason I shouldn't be able to define and use a custom element using HTML alone.

Until then I don't know if template and slot will take off.

[no_wizard]

This is what everyone in userland clamors for as a baseline. Decade plus old arguments about this. I have little hope this will happen

[lenkite]

We had HTML imports and they got rid of it. No JS means No Ads.

[no_wizard]

It means less invasive tracking really, not no ads.

Ironically it was Firefox that killed it, not Google. Google was all in on HTML imports. It would have also given a non JS way to dynamically load HTML. Streaming would have been great with this.

[adjav]

HTML imports required JS to be used - otherwise all you had was a `link`ed DOM tree that you couldn't access. No one has really proposed a way to dynamically load anything without JS AFAIK.

[verisimilidude]

Fully agreed.