[gizajob]

or a writer really just goofing around in the same way as, say, Seinfeld.

[lisper]

I didn't like Seinfeld either. There are enough people behaving like assholes in the real world. I don't need more of that in my evening entertainment.

[gizajob]

Or George Carlin. Or Bill Hicks. Or a bunch of other people you don't like but that many enjoy regardless.

[lisper]

The problem with Seinfeld is that they deliberately set out to make a show with unsympathetic characters whose central personality trait is that they care about no one but themselves. Basically, they're sociopaths. Carlin can be abrasive, but I don't think he's a sociopath.

[10u152]

Why is that a problem? The whole point is to make the viewer laugh and mock them for comedy.

[lisper]

Because I don't believe in mocking people for their personal shortcomings.

I also think a fundamental principle of good drama is that it should have a protagonist that you can root for even if they are flawed. (Frasier is a good example.) None of Seinfeld's characters had any redeeming qualities whatsoever.

[10u152]

Whoa, you don’t believe in mocking people for their behaviour?

[veave]

Hence the finale ;-)