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by thewataccount 1056 days ago
> Still excuse after excuse after excuse to just not use Firefox.

What happens when Firefox refuses to implement WEI - then <insert large social media companies> start to require it?

If WEI becomes a common requirement then Firefox will effectively be forced to implement it or it won't be usable as a web browser at that point for the average consumer

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Yeah this gets tricky for Google and Mozilla. Goog need FF (and pay for it) to be around and not be meaningless in terms of market share because anything else and it's hard for big G to keep pretending they don't have a crushingly obvious monopoly. Mozilla need Goog because you know, hundreds of millions of reasons. FF bowing to WEI would be the ultimate capitulation. But as you say, if WEI flies, Moz capitulates or dies.

It's tough for Goog. They're playing the end-game card here. It's tough, because it's the game winner. On the one hand, total and complete domination of the web. On the other.. Kahn's FTC and the pesky EU technocrats shaking those tired old antitrust lawsuits..

I love FF. But if WEI or whatever future version of WEI gets up, FF will join the party or consign itself to eventual irrelevance. "I use FF for the web, except banking, most major corp sites, paid content, and an increasing bunch of other stuff - but those four bloggers who still post plain HTML pages, FF all the way, go indie web!"

Sure, this is what it looks like if/when we've fully lost the fight.

Those of us who currently recommend Firefox are hoping that there's still enough time to do something about this.

Maybe it's already too late, but you might as well try, you know?

Firefox is <2% user base at this point, and financially completely beholden to Google.

The fight was lost long ago, several times (once when they decided to throw out thousands of developer work years by gimping all the addons)

My entire point is that firefox is as 2% because all of us petty and pathetic individuals are unwilling to do even the littleist thing to make the world a better place at our own expense.

Using a slightly worse (and I argue it isn't even) web browser won't kill you, yet everyone on here has excuse after excuse to continue to help google have control over the entire internet.

Pathetic.

Google is just as beholden to Firefox existing, if it doesn’t want to be sued to oblivion.
I'm not sure "I'm not a monopoly, look my competitor owns 2% of the market" is an effective defense anyway?

I think only Safari really counts as a "competitor" at 20% market share and doesn't share the chromium base (compared to edge, etc).

Or Firefox and other browsers against WEI gain a significant userbase that these websites can't use WEI to discriminate.
Most people don't really interact with social media via the web anymore anyway. They use apps.