[tromp]

Even compared to Hawaii?

[cellis]

Too distal, and there's not a thriving non-tourism industry to work in.

[hackeraccount]

In terms of cost of living Hawaii is effectively an annex of California.

[squid_fm]

Fair point. I would argue that Hawaii also falls into this category (and it seems reflected in their housing prices).

[cvhashim04]

Hawaii is for sure more expensive than Cali. My pockets were hurting when my vacation ended.