[dfxm12]

Cab drivers are the real ones getting scammed, unfortunately, and rarely have any way of recourse. When paying with card, they are rarely paid in a timely manner, if they get the proper amount at all. This is even before uber made medallions worthless. When I was growing up, it was a matter of common courtesy to use cash in situations like that, where you know the employer is going to play games with the employee when you pay with card, like a cabbie's fare or a waitress' tip. As we got older, most of us who worked in service industries & survived on tips knew this the hard way because we were also a victim of wage theft via skimming tips, etc.

I'm glad my city isn't allowing certain businesses to go completely cash free for this reason. The push to force credit card payments everywhere just hurts a class of people that are already vulnerable.

[Tyrek]

This incredible scope creep in the customer's responsibilities (not just price, but I somehow have to adjust for a vague sense of the employer-employee relationship, for ethical/ESG considerations, etc. etc.) is just... overwhelming. I shouldn't be responsible for your employment relationship, that is between you, your employer, and the relevant regulatory authority.

[gerbilly]

> this incredible scope creep in the customer's responsibilities

It's the difference between being a consumer and being a citizen.

[slt2021]

agree, I dont have time to learn details of employer-employee relationships of each company I buy stuff from.

Just put the whole price upfront and thats it, let the market forces find equilibrium

[dfxm12]

I never said you're responsible. I said it's a courtesy. If that's too much to ask from you, then, so be it.

[gerbilly]

Yes I totally agree. When businesses push for going cashless, they are often doing it to claw back the tips customers are giving their workers.

Tips that have become customary because it's become accepted that a waiter mustn't be paid a living wage. Why has it become accepted, because we have a hidden caste system.

But the customers get to feel cool to frequent a place that 'gets it' because cash is or old people.

[Tyrek]

The so-called 'hidden caste system' that has tipped employees at the top of the F&B food chain, earning significantly more than back-of-house staff like bussers and chefs?

[gerbilly]

Yeah, exactly the same caste system. I didn't say only waiters were in a lower caste. This kind of bullshit is everywhere.

Some establishments pool the tips (cash ones) and use to distribute it to the bussers (don't know about the cooking staff). Obviously this was not a universal practice.

[scarface_74]

Yes because most people get paid everyday.

> I'm glad my city isn't allowing certain businesses to go completely cash free for this reason. The push to force credit card payments everywhere just hurts a class of people that are already vulnerable.

And forget about the vulnerability of the merchants who have to worry about being robbed.

[cameldrv]

I don't believe this. I think that the real reason that cab drivers don't want to accept credit cards is because they don't want to pay taxes on the money like everyone else has to. Sorry buddy, your inability to evade taxes is not my problem.