[k_roy]

> is because people weren't trying to be fancy and they kept the dependencies to a minimum

I've been in professional development for 25 years now, and I've heard people say this before NUMEROUS times.

You know who the people who say this are?

People who live and breathe Dunning-Kruger and in reality, just unable to keep up and being unwilling to learn and evolve.

Usually this is someone that likes to talk the talk, but put something that actually requires critical thinking and it's instantly broken, the libraries are broken, the language is broken. Don't worry, the developer isn't the problem, it's all the tools and scaffolding.

And I've hired and fired at least 100 developers over the course of my career in Fortune 100 companies so I've seen them all.

Whatever. Your opinion vs my opinion.

Nobody said you had to run this on your soldering iron. And it's not like it's supporting a huge catalog of devices. It's just an alternative option for tinkerers.

> Imagine if you stop pumping oxygen into this project for a month...

And nothing will change... This is a simple OS for a $26 soldering iron with what amounts to a custom form-factor SBC.

But don't worry, hvasilev knows everything about development and this project is bullsh*t.

[hvasilev]

i honestly didn't read half of this post. i have no interest in engaging into this sort of conversation. have a nice day.

[lightedman]

"You know who the people who say this are?

People who live and breathe Dunning-Kruger"

Or those of us that actually paid attention to good coding practice in the 90s.

Try again when you've got 4 decades under your belt.

[k_roy]

lol, are you seriously trying to state that there's been zero evolution in coding practice in 30+ years?

Do you still using CVS as well? Is OOP the only way to live in your world? Java+Flash seems like a great way to make interactive web pages. Let's concat together some sql with user input and pass it straight into the database.

Gotta ship that project with some Extreme Programming. Do you still believe a programmer with 20+ years of experience but can't navigate modern tools, scaffolding, and methodology and hasn't grown and evolved their skills is more valuable than a programmer with 2 years of experience?

I am a hack programmer at best and I can admit that. But I've also worked with and managed the best and the worst of engineers and it takes about 5 seconds to smell out the BS and the people who are locked into their ways.

Yeaaaaah.... read what I wrote again repeatably above until you don't represent it.

[hvasilev]

First you pointed out your extensive experience as a basis for your argument and now when you realize you're completely out of your depths, you call us "locked in their ways" and call yourself "I am a hack programmer at best and I can admit that".

Fun fact: I'm actually not really seeing this "locked in your ways" as people get older, I see people asking about the cost-benefit of using a technology before using it a lot more. Just because I got curious, I took another look at the repo, there was a few libraries that I've never seen, but generally I'm up to date with what is going on (might have not used anything in production, but at least out of curiosity - I'm familiar). As I pointed out elsewhere, there are just literally 16 different languages used in this project and over 270k LoC.

I'm way past the stage of my life in which I feel a need to have a dick measurement contest online with random people about my experience, where I work and how many devices do we sell per year.

I think you might need emotional support in your life, take care.

[k_roy]

So now you can take the time to read? And engage? because you said you don't do that.

> First you pointed out your extensive experience as a basis for your argument and now when you realize you're completely out of your depths, you call us "locked in their ways" and call yourself "I am a hack programmer at best and I can admit that".

I pointed it out as a basis for how transparent the behavior is, not as my capability as a programmer. Because I'm not the one who claimed I can glance at a repo for 2 minutes and judge it to be bullsh*t. Nor see 270k lines of code and not see the extensive documentation, translations, etc

> I'm way past the stage of my life in which I feel a need to have a dick measurement contest online with random people about my experience, where I work and how many devices do we sell per year.

And yet, here you still are. Measuring away.

[lightedman]

All that evolution means jack and shit when it's all done with almost zero thought to the OSI model. Hardware AND software both are horribly-guilty of this.

And we were screaming about this 30 years ago, when speculative execution was first a thing.

Now you have to have all this new stuff because you refuse to acknowledge the old stuff, and its problems, in the first place. And then you go on to repeat half the problems, and only bandaid the others. Memory safety.. pffft. Physics laughs at that notion.

I can tell you have very, very little experience.