[sam0x17]

> It's also clear that some people feel real benefits from being in the office.

I'm so tired of this equivocation. These aren't two neatly swapable things like some sort of cute little "preference" that each company can decide for itself without receiving any judgement.

The costs behind in-office work are GARGANTUAN, both in terms of the literal cost of renting + heating + cooling a huge office space that is vacant every weekend and every night, and the environmental impact of this flagrant waste, combined with the costs of requiring everyone to commute (and typically do so without compensation), the brain drain of only allowing "local" applicants, etc, etc...

This isn't some cute little preference where you can be like oh well Johnny prefers in-office. Johnny better come up with some really huge world-changing justifications or better yet we can stop renting such spaces and save money and the environment across the board.

[campl3r]

As an employee the cost of working from home is GARGANTUAN. I already life where I want to, don't force me to move to a more expensive place so that I have space for an office at home. I don't need to move for any office, as all offices in my local city (1+ mil) are easily reachable by bike or subway within 30 minutes.

[bluefirebrand]

> As an employee the cost of working from home is GARGANTUAN

You don't have a desk, chair, and wifi at home?

Or a kitchen table or anything?

I mean I guess it's unfair to assume everyone has any kind of office space set up at their homes but I'm kinda shocked you don't already just have a flat surface and a chair.

[sam0x17]

90% of the people I do video calls with are either calling from a literal closet or do an animated/replacement background anyway. Like you I spent a lot of time and effort preparing my (real life) background behind me, and most people are surprised when they find out it isn't fake.

Point being, no one cares, and you do not need a "home office" to WFH. You can WFH from a bus