[underseacables]

I understand why businesses want us to return to office, and cannot disagree that I would likely react the same way. However returning to the office has numerous additional costs that are very much avoidable. I have to go to the office once a week. That’s a week do gas, time, money, pollution, and using resources and space that is duplicative.

[FredPret]

Here’s the thing with commercial leases. They go on for years at a time and cost a very large amount.

So some companies are locked into their office leases and stupidly think not having people there is a waste of that money when it’s a sunk cost and has already been wasted.

But for companies without an office, it’s a massive saving.

So in the long run, cubicle-minded managers will go out of business, and get outcompeted by their younger and more modern replacements.

[bestouff]

Leases ? You didn't understand how it works. Boss has a company. Boss buys some big office. Boss rents its office to its company. Some systemic tax rebates apply. Boss gets even more rich.

RTO is a nightmare for these people.

[briandear]

“Younger” replacements? I am 46 and I’m the opposite of cubical minded. At lot of us old guys remember when remote was a thing long before Covid. The only time I worked in an office was 3 of my 5 years at Apple. And it wasn’t by choice.

Plenty of “younger” workers often equate “work life” with “life” and love the ping-pong and beer culture of “tech” offices. I despise it. A lot of younger workers coming out of college see the office as a place to get their lattes and socialize.

So while I agree with the “cubicle-minded” aspect, the “younger” aspect isn’t quit accurate or fair. Many of us that have a life outside of work hate that cubicle-minded attitude regardless of our age. It’s often the older and more experienced people that have less tolerance for office culture, especially those of us that were doing remote long before it was a widespread “thing.” Unless I have to work with physical stuff, there is zero need to be in an office.

[FredPret]

Younger as in next wave of owners and CEO’s. Economically speaking, the average person is just getting started at 46. I didn’t use the term to refer to 21 yo’s.