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by epolanski 1053 days ago
Yeah, seems racist, why do it?

Never understood the fixation in US of breaking every stat by ethnicity or skin color.

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Because to identify discrimination, you need to measure it.

Without taking these stats, the Jim Crow South suddenly looks like an even-handed application of voting tests.

e: I will say, the number of comments I get from European commentators favoring the “putting your hands in front of your eyes” approach when it comes to racism in Europe does make it completely unsurprising how non-diverse their C-suite is as well as why they have difficulty attracting high-skilled immigrant talent.

Delusional arguments.

Out of the richest 1000 Americans how many are blacks? 1? 2?

And what's the % like in prisons?

Wasn't Oprah the only black billionaire in US like for a decade?

US attracts talents because there's much more money in US than elsewhere and the political and bureaucratic environment favors entrepreneurship.

Please quit lecturing people around the world bantering a moral ground you don't have.

> US attracts talents because there's much more money in US than elsewhere and the political and bureaucratic environment favors entrepreneurship.

I agree. The attitude towards immigrants doesn't seem to affect how well they do anyway. The opportunities matter much more than anything else.

The US has long had permissive immigration policy relative to Europe and that is absolutely one of the largest factors in America's dominance in industry and that immigration policy is a product of attitude towards immigrants. This is true historically - explaining dominance in the 20th century - and in modern tech, capital flows to where it can most effectively leverage high-skilled technical labor and that was the almost exclusively the United States until very recently.
We Americans do it for "reverse discrimination," and yes it's racist.
Yeah I am sure there is no lingering racism in countries that were literally running colonial societies in Africa within living memory.

My dad grew up in a European country with colonies in Africa, with state sponsored racism against africans, but yeah it’s all reverse now.

I didn't say there isn't racism in Europe. In fact, I think Europe is more racist than the US.
Just that we shouldn’t measure it. Agreed that Europe is more racist
I don't think it's any of my school's, employer's, internship's, etc business what race I am, unless there are protections in place that make it only for govt statistics. The US Census is also fine.

Like it took until 2023 to finally outlaw intentional racial discrimination in American universities; that was A-OK and widely practiced before. And some of Google's internship programs publicly list what races they prefer, which is common in tech.

Europe is a huge place.

Anyway comparing it to a country that's been built on immigrants killing and banishing natives is plain lunacy.

America is huge too. I'm considering all of both, though, and modern-day rather than hundreds of years ago.