[Thoeu388]

> People only really learn when they’re surprised. If they’re not surprised, then what you told them just fits in with what they already know.

And under that is picture of quad-bike, where wheels fell off!

People do learn from mistakes. If you are "surprising", and loose all wheels, people will learn from that mistake! But they will never ever interact with you again! You will get on banlist as a moron and clown!

Real value is in boring, predictable and repeatable stuff that delivers. Like I spend 90 minutes on lesson, and it gives me 1.5% skill increase. I do it 100x times and I have something. You will never be able to "surprise" me and deliver value 100x times! Smart people do not eat junk food!

[jasonlotito]

In this context, learning something new is surprising.

> People do learn from mistakes.

Mistakes are surprises.

> Like I spend 90 minutes on lesson

Assuming this lesson is teaching you something you didn't know, that's the surprise.

[Thoeu388]

> Assuming this lesson is teaching you something you didn't know, that's the surprise.

There was some trick in calculus that makes it 1% more efficveint. Big deal but hardly surprise.

[lolsal]

People learn in different ways. I remember details of 9/11 because they were surprising not because I read about them 100 times.

[ilyt]

That's not knowledge, that's trivia

[lolsal]

If you say so.

You won’t be able to change my mind with an empty quip - people can and do learn by being surprised; and other folks learn differently. I’m not sure there’s much room for debate about that, but if it makes you feel good, spend the energy.