[cbeach]

Very impressive tech demo, but in practice, the lack of contrast and the slow (but impressive for e-ink) refresh rate would be a dealbreaker.

Also, as others have said, what's the benefit of e-ink on the desktop where mains power is readily available?

[no_wizard]

E-Ink can achieve “real color” better than LED / LCD for design that is used in non electronic mediums.

Also glare. The eye strain on e-ink is much less than that of LED / LCD displays.

Subjectively I like the realism color aspect

[orbital-decay]

> E-Ink can achieve “real color” better than LED / LCD for design that is used in non electronic mediums.

Can it, though? What makes it able to, and what is the real color? When I hold a physical Pantone patch against my calibrated IPS display in proper viewing conditions, I fail to see any difference.

> Also glare.

My experience is that E-Ink readers have the same issues with glare as any other display, compared to paper which doesn't have it.

[mdp2021]

> the same issues with glare

True, but that is a property of the products, not of the technology. (It seems that they are not using external layers of the highest quality.)

So it may be possible to find an EPD display with a decent anti-glare finish. (It may also depend on the production batch.)

[orbital-decay]

It absolutely is the property of technology. You fundamentally need the see-through layer, and there's not a lot of materials that meet all requirements (optical transparency, durability, finish, coatings, etc); essentially it's plastics and glasses. In that sense, EPD isn't any different from other display tech.

[gamblor956]

E-inks do not require a glass screen; it's there for durability. See https://www.digikey.com/en/maker/blogs/2022/is-an-e-ink-disp....

Thus, the see-through layer is not a fundamental property of the technology; it is a property of the specific use cases of the device in which durability is required or expected.

[mdp2021]

Why would EPD be different from LCD natively shipped with anti-glare coating, or selected good matte films for our glass-based displays (e.g. "smartphones")?

[orbital-decay]

It isn't, that's my point. Both fundamentally have the same issues with glare, contrary to the OP claim that EPD is somehow glare-free. It can be mitigated a bit but getting to the glare level of actual paper (essentially zero) is probably not possible without major tradeoffs.

[nashashmi]

Would love to know more on the color accuracy of e-ink displays.

[no_wizard]

TechCrunch has a nice break down of the possibilities around this[0]

I am not sure how the color e-ink performs in this particular scenario with the monitor advertised compared to something like P3 enabled displays, but the tech has advanced that Gallery 3 panels[1] can produce 50K CMYK scaled colors are 300 DPI which is great for color accuracy, esp. in regards to physical materials (brochures, T-Shirts etc).

That said, they're likely using Kaledio displays here, Good Reads has a nice breakdown of them[2]

[0]: https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/12/e-ink-color-tech-epaper-ma...

[1]: https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/25/23041407/e-ink-color-gall...

[2]: https://goodereader.com/blog/electronic-readers/e-ink-kaleid...

[littlestymaar]

Being able to work with daylight without having to put the monitor brightness at an uncomfortable level is something I'd appreciate a lot.

[creatlv]

You could put it outside and enjoy glare-free outdoor computer work?

[shortrounddev2]

I would love this for a laptop but I feel like the tech is too new to be that compact

[tazjin]

Dasung actually make a 13" version of this, which I own and have used outside in Egypt a lot while I lived there. It's a VERY sunny country, and normal laptop screens are almost unusable outside.

My model is a few years older and things have probably improved since then (quality, refresh rate, interop with the OS to trigger things like full refreshes), but it was already fairly workable back then.

I also use a phone with an e-ink screen (Hisense A9) as my daily driver and it's quite nice, some software issues notwithstanding.

[ZiiS]

If they can get them well calibrated then the is a market for prepress designers who wouldn't even look at the price.