[danielovichdk]

When adults can't be responsible for themselves they need to be managed.

When adults can be responsible they need more than one other adult to address issues and challenges with. To learn from and to teach to.

Management is a industrial and corporate construct. Its put in place to force labour intense industries to tell others what they need to do. Tell is often a monologue.

There is indeed need for adults to be around other adults with a sane understanding of responsibility. That's not management though.

Management is often a bleak blank cover to compensate for what I would call being professional.

Most often management does not work because the construct is that one (the manager) gets to rule more than the other, even though the manager might be completely wrong.

Some management must be in place otherwise things will stagnate.

Most management is a big fucking joke being mostly about looking good upwards. Politics.

More wine...

[gundmc]

This comment reads like something #6 from the OP would say.

[singron]

I think it's actually agreeing with a lot of points from #11 and #16. Obviously this is an article about why you shouldn't be a manager, so it doesn't have any reasons why you should be a manager or why management is important. They alude to the fact that someone has to do performance reviews, fire people, and resolve conflicts.

The less edgy and more academic version of this is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_X_and_Theory_Y.

[badpun]

The managers I've most worked with are mostly concerned with what will be built (and that is discussed with other managers as well as other stakeholders external to the team), and don't care that much about internal team dynamics. They trust the team to have enough professionalism between its members to do the work as needed, self-organise etc.