[tpmoney]

>…But I do enjoy these in-office days for what they make up for in remote work: >Face to face chats; Real time human bonding; A sense of place. The office is just >a socially accepted excuse to get everyone out of their homes and together for a >few hours. > >I’m especially grateful that our cofounders understand why we should actually be >at the office, and that any expectation of “being more productive” is nothing more >but a polite fiction. Ironically, our two days in the office are mostly spent just >outside the building. Technical chats over lunch, 1 on 1 meetings as a walk around >the neighborhood, and drinks in the evening. That’s what hybrid should be. I’ll >send my pull requests at 3 am while in my comfy chair at home.

I feel like these sorts of things are part of "being more productive" though. Having a good rapport with your co-workers, having a chance to talk about side things, having a chance for people whose domains don't normally cross to hear what's going on elsewhere. These are all parts of being a well functioning and productive team. It's a real shame that larger organizations tend to lose sight of that, but it's also a shame in my opinion that this whole fight over remote vs in office work has gotten the workers pretending that nothing but the numbers matter. This really feels like a "be careful what you wish for" moment.

[klodolph]

> I feel like these sorts of things are part of "being more productive" though.

Yeah.

There are some things which can be more difficult when you’re remote. Working through a design—it’s so much better when you have two people in a room with a whiteboard or paper. Onboarding. Going through a gnarly code review (where you really want some major changes to the code before it gets shipped). Debriefing after a meeting, where you and your teammate know that the meeting was a complete waste of time, but you need a chance to kvetch about it offline and off the record.