[unnouinceput]

You do know that Stalin lived after 2nd WW almost a decade, yes? And you do know that the entire Eastern Europe was under the heavy boot of red plague, yes? Do you think that "oh, after WW2 Stalin never caused any more deaths, purges, famine, and became such a good boy"?

I suggest you read about communist plagues caused by his regime after WW2, not just before or during.

[cmrdporcupine]

I'm not sure what you're on about, I never implied any of what you just said, and your tone is entirely inappropriate for this forum. I suggest you go read the HN guidelines (again?). This isn't Reddit.

In particular:

"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

and

"When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names"

Nothing in my comment said anything about the post-war period or implied any positive interpretation of Stalin or in fact the direction of the totals at all.

I kindly ask that you consider your interactions here more carefully.

[nemo44x]

Maybe he’s upset because you minimized and even tried to blame others for the tyranny that communism has plagued the world with? That you somehow did not consider the decades after the war where communists murdered 10s of millions of innocent people.

I can imagine someone being offended by that in the same way someone making excuses for the nazis would be offensive.

[cmrdporcupine]

I never did either of those things. Not a single word to that effect.

[unnouinceput]

We started counting the XXth century biggest criminals, yes? And you simply stopped at WW2 because that's when Hitler (allegedly) died, yes? While I was counting the entirety of that century for the whole of those criminals life.

And I see this all the time on HN. Somebody responds to my comments just to be argumentative for the sake of it when I reply, despite me just making a simple comment. And then when I take their reply seriously and respond with proven facts they go with "oh HN rules and conduct bla bla". Well, maybe next time check the facts first, then be argumentative.

That was as a general idea. Now, personally, for this subject here, me living in an Eastern Europe country, having witnessed the horrors of communists, and fully know that Russia/USSR's Iron Curtain was just modern slavery where they (the red plague) pillaged and took all our countries resources and shipped them to Kremlin (hence why in the beginning of space race USSR was head to head with US) making them rich and the rest of us poorer, when somebody like you dismisses those facts I get to a boiling point.

Also, while on this subject, you can see that effect today. Everybody on the Eastern Europe/former Soviet Bloc countries hates Russia and why we simply took Ukrainian refugees in our homes without our still corrupt governments moving a finger at first. That's why we keep donating to Ukraine's war effort. Because a dismantled Russia is our only chance to have peace in Europe. And this is what Russians and Putin don't understand about us. We simply do not want another half a century of pillaging from them. And this is why Stalin vs Hitler body count are not similar. Both are bad, but Stalin was way worse.

[cmrdporcupine]

Again, you've just mischaracterized my comment, and appear to be imagining an argument and disagreement where there really was none, and then using that as a rather negative platform.

I feel no need to engage with you further, it's not an honest discussion, you're just making strawmen.