[rhamzeh]

I can't believe I'm on the side of Facebook on this one.

The problem is "nations" don't represent the people in those nations, and those in power are just as capable as big tech in to relying on scare tactics and duplicitous messaging and misleading the populace in order to push forward their own agendas.

Fighting encryption has nothing to do with "saving the children", no more than all the misguided disastrous crusades against one thing or another over the past 50 years have been about saving the children.

I come from a place where in the 2000s the religious institutions through a hissy fit about certain music and subcultures and how they must be suppressed in order to "save the children". Fighting encryption may not be religious in nature but is born out of the same need for power and control.

[_8j50]

> The problem is "nations" don't represent the people in those nations

The hell they don't! And who are bigtech companies to decide who the legitimate leader or a nation is? Whatever government is recognized by your government as legitimate gets to call the shots over those people. Democracy is not a human right, and even if it was it is democratic nations that are demanding this to the most part. You don't get to claim you are really fighting for the people when you have no legitimate reason to make that claim. Even if the people wanted privacy at the cost of more harm to their fellow man, the people need to use the law to enforce that, either you have the rule of law, the rule of man or the rule of criminals.