[CalRobert]

If we're using anecdotes, cars are the reason my kids don't walk independently, and the reason we're moving to the Netherlands next month. Drivers are the leading cause of dead children in the US.

Aside from directly killing children in impacts, car dependent design is usually hostile to walking anyway, for adults as well as kids. Walking to school is nice, but challenging when hundreds of parents late for work in tall, poor front visibility SUV's are running stop signs on the same streets where your child is walking.

[gorbachev]

Exactly the same for me. One of the main reasons I moved my family out of the US.

[CalRobert]

Where to? Moved to Ireland ten years ago, moving to Netherlands next week, mostly for kids.