[guerrilla]

I didn't say anything about external sources of stress. I said sources of stress. External events cause stress in the body which can be measured physiologically and neurologically. The mind can be a contributing factor but it is absolutely not necessary. Injuries that you're entirely unconscious of can cause significant levels of stress which are measurable.

[yadingus]

> Injuries that you're entirely unconscious of can cause significant levels of stress which are measurable.

The unconscious is the mind too.

Body and mind are interdependent, without mind the body would be dead.

[guerrilla]

> The unconscious is the mind too.

No, I think this is meaningless. What you're refering to is the brain. Positing a subcoscious mind adds nothing to the explanatory model since everything this supposed entity does is already done by the brain and pretty well understood at that. Occam's razor. You're stuck in old Cartesian metaphysics (dualism and parallelism) which has been superceded by better scientific undetstandings for quite a while now.

[yadingus]

The mind is more than the brain.

Dualism is proposing that there is a clear division between mind and body, which is your original claim that I'm debating.

[guerrilla]

I have no idea how you misunderstood "stress is actually physiological" as some kind of claim about dualism.

[yadingus]

> The mind can be a contributing factor but it is absolutely not necessary. Injuries that you're entirely unconscious of can cause significant levels of stress which are measurable.

You're making a division between mind and body, stating that stress can occur without the mind.