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by 29athrowaway 1049 days ago
High tech = cyber, low life = punk

Income inequality and resource scarcity will make the average person a cyberpunk.

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Cyber actually means self-regulating. It comes from the Greek for "good at steering". Cybernetics was the study of self-regulating systems. I'm not sure where computers and high tech got in the picture other than the fact that cybernetics researchers used computers to analyze things.
Origin of the word cyberpunk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk_(novel)

Anyone have a reference for when the cyber- prefix of cybernetics mutated from meaning control theory to "of or relating to computers and internet"?

Certainly it was not the connotation given by the pioneers of the genre.
I think this comment highlights why cyberpunk has fallen by the wayside.

Even in the 80s, the mainstream culture didn’t understand what cyberpunk (or even punk) represented. Now? probably less so.

Cyberpunk chose not to endorse the oppressive system and it’s heroes were not just self reliant but collaborative. The aesthetic said “your cultural ‘ideals’ are not ours. Keep your distance (because that means we are bothered less by you)”. (Cyber)punk is only counter-culture because of the prevalence of the culture around it. Otherwise it would just be an alternate culture on it’s own.

The reason they were labelled “low lives” or criminals is due to the fact that that culture still had to operate within the bounds of western capitalism.

As a thought experiment to everyone (though will this land if you don’t at least have second-hand knowledge of the existing societal problems? I’m not sure): If you choose not to participate in the credit system and don’t already have money, where do you sleep without being called a criminal or a vagrant? How do you feed yourself without having access to tillable land? How do you communicate with others to expand ideas and share resources?