[throwaway-243]

7,485 pedestrians were killed by cars in the whole of the US in 2021.

this is a great example of where whataboutism is not a logical fallacy. i mean what is your solution? ban all driving?

sure, but give me a proper public transport network that can supply the suburbs and rural areas. fix urban cost of living while you're at it.

[ecshafer]

Remove zoning restrictions is step 1 to allow denser more walkable areas, which will reduce urban cost of living.

Step 2 is to change the highway code to make stroads illegal and make more normal safe roads.

Step 3 is change the fha rules so more dense homes are built.

Step 4 change cafe standards so smaller lighter cars are the norm, possibly tax suvs and trucks.

These are all stroke of a pen changes.

[Tade0]

> These are all stroke of a pen changes.

In a democracy you need buy-in from society at large. What's the plan on achieving that?

[mm263]

You can poll people about things that they want, but (like it happened with many great inventions) people don't actually know what they need. Do they want less car-centric environment? Most will answer "no" because they've never lived in a society that wasn't as car-centric. Most people are not urbanists and most are content with their lives. You can poll them and do inquiries to death, or you can allow experts to implement all of the things that are unambiguously good from any perspective, let people grumble for a bit, adjust and after that reap benefits.

A part of being a democratic society is accepting that an opinion of an average person is worthless.

[NegativeLatency]

> i mean what is your solution? ban all driving?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

[uoaei]

2021 is obviously an outlier in terms of driving and walking. Can't quite tell what point you're making but your example is not representative.