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by avmich 1059 days ago
No I didn't. Can you quote the phrase?

The word "emergency" occurs once, in phrase "Thunberg does not fly except for emergency cases.(4)" . The link (4) leads to https://time.com/5663534/greta-thunberg-arrives-sail-atlanti... "Climate Activist Greta Thunberg, 16, Arrives in New York After Sailing Across the Atlantic" . I didn't read the whole article, are you saying that article says Thunberg flies?
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avmich 1059 days ago
I read the article, it's about travel by electric boat across the ocean.

So I'm still not sure where's the information supporting "Not just that she flies around the world instead of doing zooms." coming from.

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gitfan86 1059 days ago
Sorry, I'm not sure where the wikipedia Editor got that information from. I can change my original comment to "travels with a significant carbon footprint" if you would make you happy? Does the carbon footprint section of wikipedia seem up to your standards?
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avmich 1059 days ago
From what I know about Greta, she is rather careful with such matters. Your comment in general is in effect destroying part of those careful efforts, so I'd be happy if it wouldn't.

"Significant carbon footprint" asks for, significant compared to what? Maybe Greta leaves bigger footprint than the lowest, say, 10% of the Earth population, who don't really have access to modern technologies with that significant footprint. But she surely tries quite a lot given the circumstances where she is, and encourages us to follow. So I'm skeptical about accusations towards her without enough evidence.

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gitfan86 1059 days ago
"Careful" isn't a number though. The wikipedia referenced flights to support her boat trip alone put her carbon footprint above hundreds of millions of people.

https://www.iea.org/commentaries/the-world-s-top-1-of-emitte...

She is most likely in the 90% percentile not the 10% percentile. Which is my point. We shouldn't look to people with huge carbon footprints as role models. Al Gore for example has multiple homes. He is easily in the top 5% of carbon footprints in the world.

If the most alarmist and upset climate activists cannot get their carbon footprint down below the average human, then it is pointless to try. The only fix for this problem is technological acceleration toward clean energy, even if getting there causes short term emissions to increase.

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avmich 1059 days ago
I disagree, but I don't think this is a good platform to list arguments and supporting explanations. I've tried to write a longer post, but explanations are too long to be sufficient.
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gitfan86 1059 days ago
If you cannot simply explain why I am wrong in a short form context, that is fine, but please think about the possibility that I am right.
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