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by AdleyEskridge 5218 days ago
I understand the point you're trying to make, but I don't think there is a single country in the world (free or otherwise) that makes it illegal to abstain from vaccination. If there is such a country, please correct me—I simply couldn't find one after a few minutes of research.

The benefits of vaccination for the receiver of the vaccine are usually enough to entice voluntary vaccination. In fact, I'm sure there are plenty of civic-minded people who get themselves (or their children) vaccinated for the benefit of everyone else, too.

The government would only feel compelled to forcibly vaccinate its citizens if people refused en masse to get vaccinated. And that would likely only happen if the cost/risk benefit ratio for getting vaccinated was (perceived to be) unsatisfactory.

In that case, do you really want to criminalize honest, well-intentioned people who are abstaining? I'd say no—that'll create a bitter backlash, because these people don't feel like they deserve to be criminals. Instead, you'd want to educate those people and explain to them why it is worth it to get vaccinated (alternatively, if the vaccine really is too risky, you'd want to improve the vaccine). When honest, well-intentioned citizens oppose something en masse, simply making them all criminals for the common good is likely to make them oppose you, distrust you, and listen even less to what you have to say.

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I'm not aware of a country that makes it illegal to abstain from vaccination, but it's bureaucratically difficult in the US once the child reaches school age. I know that the state I grew up in (Virginia) required proof of vaccination upon entering public school. Even my college required proof of vaccination.

Which is something I hadn't thought about when it comes to the anti-vaccination crowd. I wonder what they do when their kids need proof of vaccination for school.

You just need a good reason not to be vaccined, preferably attested by a doctor.

It's not such a rare case I think, and for any vaccine there is be a small percent of children with allergies to one component or are known to badly react to the vaccine.

In many places I know of, it is as simple as a parent writing a letter claiming to be opposed to vaccination on philosophical and/or religious grounds.
How do you know it? Do you know parents who did it, or people who have accepted such letters?
My parents were very anti-vaccination and are part of a 'religion' that exempts us from it... all we needed was a note from a 'religious leader' and its done... I'm not vaccinated for anything. The religion is 'The Universal Congregation of Wisdom' (its very chiropractic, my dads a chiropractor... the 'religious doctrine' is pretty entertaining...)

you can join with a letter and like a 200$ donation or soemthing

Homeschool?
It's always a possibility, sure, but I doubt that everyone who skipped vaccinations wants to homeschool. The sets of people could even have significant overlap, but I imagine there'd still be a decent number of who skipped vaccinations who don't want to homeschool.
Uruguay (the country where I live) has compulsory vaccination, there's a family undergoing a lengthy trial for their right not to vaccinate their children:

(Spanish) http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/spanish/misc/newsid_7661000/7661114...

"In Uruguay, vaccination is compulsory. The law states that you must have a current vaccination certificate to go to school and access other services and benefits, such as receiving family allowance payments or process the health card, which among other things enables joining sports clubs." (I'll add that the health card is compulsory for working as well)

They had to go to exile to Argentina

A summary with their point of view (both Spanish and English)

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:giFW-FhFxFsJ:...

"Imagine in a small town (Tarariras), a family (Borgogno Arce) which would not give their children the required shots, because they react with convulsions and the doctor had recommended no vaccinating; a school principal—requested by other parents—that would not admit the children to class if they didn´t get their shots; the people of the town—out of ignorance—would point this family with their finger wherever they went, because they thought that the parents didn´t give the children their shots because of religious or ideological reasons; a government that compels them—without legal grounds—to give them the shots under the force of the law; and an exile in Argentina, painful and humiliating, an offensive alternative to anyone with a small amount of humanity."

Government states that they didn't want to get vaccinated for religious or philosophical reasons (those are not valid in Uruguay):

"The case was well known and controversial in the country, they would not vaccinated for religious or philosophical issues " said Dr. Savio, a local expert.

I assume you are blissfully unaware of the Luddite anti-vaccination movement.
I'm aware of them, but I'm under the impression that they make up a tiny sliver of any given country.

And for what it's worth I didn't downvote you (nor can I).