[IKantRead]

> We are making progress and as long as the pessimists don't get their way.

I've been hearing a similar statement for decades now, but the global emissions only continue to rise.

In fact, I've been hearing that logic since the late 90s and in that time we have doubled the cumulative emissions up to that point.

We have seen that emissions drop with decrease in economic activity (multiple times). Yes, batteries, renewables, and nuclear would all part a big part in a truly sustainable future... but we have to survive until that future first.

> Reducing carbon emissions isn't a solution

We're well past the "solution" stage of this problem. Where in the "harm reduction" phase. Reduced emissions is absolutely superior in this regard to increased emissions... and yet you're arguing that we should be increasing them because a magic solution is just around the corner, like it always has been.

[gitfan86]

Well I have been hearing that Electric cars would never be adopted at scale and that Tesla was going bankrupt for over a decade.

Yet here we are and the Model Y became the best selling car in the world this year.

Don't give up hope friend.

[hooverd]

Nuclear too cheap to meter is too cheap to sustain, ironically. In our current system too much abundance is bad thing.