[mhitza]

> Are you actually in Europe?

I'm actually in Europe, and EU, but not Schengen (thank you Austria & Netherland governments for the veto vote).

> You won't get qualified devs for much less than 60k around here.

The ridiculous claim was about juniors that won't even approach the job for less than 60k, and I took that information that I found first with a Google search to illustrate that 60k euros is more than the average salary in most EU countries.

Of course you could share more precise numbers from one of your national institutions that reports this information, but on the website listed the monthly average gross salary stated for Austria is around 4540, which comes to 54480 a year.

I could count on one hand the number of junior developers I've encountered that I would call exceptional, and deserving an average salary right from the get-go.

[KeplerBoy]

I wouldn't worry too much about the average salary. Those numbers usually include people working part time.

And, stating the obvious: Software developers tend to earn above average salaries.