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I wonder how many HNers angry about this are also some combination of 1) working for bigtech 2) using iOS/OSX/Android instead of Linux (yeah, I know Android is technically a Linux) 3) using Chrome/Safari instead of Firefox and 4) have endorsed, at least in the past, bigtech firms like Google and Cloudflare acting as arbiters of what is/is not acceptable content for the internet, and even whether it should be viewable by anyone at all.

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you don't have to be a perfect bastion of morale without any hint of hipocrisy to oppose something that is so blatantly wrong.

if we don't allow people who are contributing to the problem in any way or are benefitted by it, to oppose it, we are doomed to fail.

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It's not just hypocrisy. Many of the HNers railing against this are actually responsible, even if just indirectly, for it. Take Chrome (including Chromium) use, for example. Chrome has never been that much better (e.g. 2-3x) than FF. Maybe at its best, when it first debuted and V8 wowed everyone, it was 20-30% better--not enough to justify the investment a poweruser (who heavily customizes their browser) would have to make to jump ship, and not enough for anyone concerned about the open web. Yet I would guess most people here jumped ship at some point (probably when it was new and shinny and Google still paid lip service to "don't be evil"), and they've never looked back, despite FF having caught up and remaining competitive.

Asking people to not use Chrome isn't asking much, and yet people here can't even manage that.