[epups]

Almost all the big companies you mentioned were founded 50+ years ago. When it comes to tech, yeah you can cite Spotify, but against the US big techs it's kind of cute that this is the EU's calling card. Ornikar? GitPod? Please. For each of those we could list 100, if not 1000 more successful American startups.

It's a cold, hard fact that the US has had much more successful businesses recently, particularly in tech.

[sofixa]

So innovation only counts if it's in tech and is a recently founded company? Agree to disagree on the definition then.

The innovation Airbus is doing is a million times more important (because it can drastically reduce carbon emissions in an area that emits a lot of them and is crucial for a big part of the world) than 99% of US tech startups "reinvention" or "disrupting" common things nobody needs reinventing. Do you count Juicero in your "innovative tech" metrics?

Yeah, hotels sucked in some places, but Airbnb is not a solution but it's whole can of worms aggravating housing shortages.