[crypot]

You climate guys crack me up.

15 thousand years ago Canada was under 3 kilometers of ice. Now it is home to 40 million people and covered in wildlife.

The human population went from 2 million to 8 billion during this warming period.

All the evidence points to a warmer planet supporting more life, not less.

[resoluteteeth]

The abstract question of whether a higher or lower temperature would result in more habitable land (assuming, say, a gradual change over a million years) is completely 100% irrelevant to the issue of climate change.

A fast enough change will:

- Make places where large numbers of people currently live uninhabitable due to temperature and sea levels

- Kill off most plants and animals because the ones in a given place won't be adapted to the new climate, even if theoretically the climate in other places would now be suited to them, in a way that will take millions of years to recover from.

Simply saying "warmer is better" is utterly missing the point.

[crypot]

There has been a 15000 thousand year trend, where a warming planet has resulted in more biodiversity on earth.

Where is the evidence that the trend is ending?

[AnimalMuppet]

The rate matters.

An airliner lands on a runway and smoothly decelerates from 150 MPH to zero over 10,000 feet. This is just fine.

An airliner does the same deceleration over 10 feet. Everyone on board dies in a huge fireball.

Even for neutral or beneficial changes, the rate matters.

[Aerbil313]

> covered in wildlife

You mean wildfire? Bad autocorrect. /s

[anigbrowl]

Now do Sudan

[zosima]

Sudan:

current population 50.000.000 population in 1950: 6 191 000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Sudan

I'd say they've been thriving.

[anigbrowl]

The comparison I replied to was over a 15000 year interval. Please do not muddy the waters like this, it's rude.

[zosima]

Well, if the earths population was 2 million, 15000 years ago and Sudan's today is 50 million, I think it's quite clear that Sudan's population has gone up quite a bit also over 15000 years.

[anigbrowl]

Get lost sealion