[kredd]

Face and/or fingerprints have been a requirement in in every developed country (including US) since at least 2012. Might be even earlier than that, that's just the clearest memory of myself going through the immigration in Europe. It's a tiny bit different when you're citizen of the country you're entering into, but that's just details.

At this point, I live with the expectation that my biometrics are available for sale in some 3rd party data broker, and try to live with having that kind of threat model in my mind. Something something, adapt and survive.

[mixmastamyk]

Not fingerprints or live facial recognition between trusting countries, no. It’s rather new.

I’m also taking about a tourism, not immigration.

[kredd]

You go through "customs and immigration control", that's what I was referring to, apologies. Whether you're a tourist or not, you still go through the same process. Live facial recognition is not new. I know at least in Canada, since my close friend used to work for CBSA and used to tell stories back in 2014, and assuming other countries are more advanced than us.

Fingerprinting surely was a thing when you travelled by air into the US for the first time. If i'm not mistaken, after that, they scan your passport to see if they already have the data, and don't ask for it again.

Also, if you ever had to apply for non-tourism visas, or visas for countries that require in person visits, they will absolutely take your fingerprints during document collection. I don't think servers of those countries are secure or sophisticated, so either you limit your life and live in the woods, or accept your biometrics are floating around through brokers.

[mixmastamyk]

Despite this being a US-centric site it seems you've assumed I'm not. The only other fingerprinting I've seen pre-pandemic was in Brazil, mid 2010s, due to visa reciprocity policy.

[Scoundreller]

The sane thing to do would be to discount fingerprint evidence in any judicial (and other) proceeding.

It just doesn’t mean much when everyone has a copy of everyone else’s.

[anigbrowl]

First, everyone does not have a copy of everyone else's, second it's pretty difficult to fake someone else's fingerprints. Honestly, a lot of tech people just do no seem to live in the real world. Please, take this on as a challenge and try to swap your fingerprints with those of a friend and see if you can fool a forensic technician. The experience will be well worth the small cost of hiring an expert for a few hours.