[nativecoinc]

Not being a hypocrite is not really that important compared to solving the problem at hand.

You also get into absurd situations like how former colonial powers can’t say that up-and-coming colonial powers can’t develop in that particular way. Some things are just bad to do.

[mad_tortoise]

Of course, I believe the climate crisis is the most important problem in the world. However I don't think former colonial powers have any right to say or rather lecture former colonised countries on their obligations, when the colonial powers haven't properly addressed why the colonised countries are in the state they are in. It is also not just at the feet of former colonial powers, the US wasn't a coloniser but did have a tremendous imperial influence throughout the Third World that has stymied progress and thrown Third World countries into a debt trap that they cannot escape (unfortunately China is doing the same these days). This needs to be addressed too.

And until these issues are addressed, the Third World countries who rely so heavily on coal power cannot get off their reliance on it. It will need a global effort led and on the financial burden of the First World, to support the economies of the countries that are using coal to progress. I believe that is the only way we will turn this issue around, otherwise we are just putting a plaster on a stab wound.

Let's not forget Africa and India's growth over the next century is going to eclipse anything we've ever seen before, and without the correct structures in place we will have no chance of combatting this issue.

[nativecoinc]

> Of course, I believe the climate crisis is the most important problem in the world. However I don't think former colonial powers have any right to say or rather lecture former colonised countries on their obligations, when the colonial powers haven't properly addressed why the colonised countries are in the state they are in.

Words and lectures are irrelevant. Only what the First World can do—including influencing the Third World—matters.

> It is also not just at the feet of former colonial powers, the US wasn't a coloniser but did have a tremendous imperial influence throughout the Third World that has stymied progress and thrown Third World countries into a debt trap that they cannot escape (unfortunately China is doing the same these days). This needs to be addressed too.

I guess “stymied progress” is a way of phrasing it.

And what about the Philippines?

[ZeroGravitas]

Kind of a tangent to your main point but Africa doesn't have much coal, and what it has is mostly in South Africa. As a result their transition should be a bit easier.

[bottled_poe]

> I don't think former colonial powers have any right to say or rather lecture former colonised countries on their obligations..

Unfortunately, nature doesn’t care. What’s fair and unfair is irrelevant. These political excuses are a weak justification for BAU.